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I wanted to update my 7+ year old PC (an HTPC with an i3-4130T in an Antec ISK 310-150 case, a pico-PSU, and loads of 2.5" and 3.5" disks crammed in), especially to finally get a GPU, but didn't want to go too big either, and had set myself a £700 max budget. I went for secondhand parts for most of it, mostly for budget reasons but also partly for environmental reasons. I waited for good deals on eBay, and settled for a budget case, the SG13, which works really well - but feels big compared to my previous one! All prices on the left were actual purchases.

Overall this isn't the most impressive build ever but it feels balanced and it's quiet enough. I was worried about noise as I'm going from 1 fan (stock intel from 2013) to 5 (CPU, case, PSU, 2xGPU). Unfortunately the GPU fans remain at 40% on idle, but otherwise it's OK.

A few notes on the choice of parts:

  • Advice: Apart from trawling sffpc, I was inspired by Optimum Tech and techbuyersguru.
  • Cooler: The Noctua NH-L12S is brilliant in this case with an SFX PSU, but I had to bend the pipes a bit to fit over the RAM, even though this RAM isn't very high! It arrived from the seller with bent pipes anyway, so I wasn't taking many risks. It's a HUGE improvement in noise levels compared to the stock AMD Wraith "Stealth", which isn't stealthy at all.
  • RAM: 1 stick of RAM only as I'm waiting for a good deal on a second stick. I'd like 32GB as we are several people using the PC, leaving tons of open tabs and docs, and I don't want to close it all for gaming. I know it's missing dual-channel but it doesn't really matter for everyday tasks.
  • Storage: I was aiming for the SN550 and then the SN750 appeared at my target price (new!) so why not.
  • GPU: I was hoping for the 1660 Super, but at my price point it wasn't realistic, so settled for the 1660, which still has 6GB of VRAM at least.

Some notes on the assembly:

  • Cable management: I was inspired by this thread, this build and these tips. It's a bit hard with the SF450 Gold cables as they are quite stiff but there's a nice flow of air in the end.
  • It's become seriously easy to assemble now with NVMe storage... so few cables!! I'm loving it. And I haven't even used the bottom M.2 slot (yet).
  • The Noctua cooler was a bit fiddly to install, and once in it became harder to plug the HD Audio and some other connectors. Nothing too bad.
  • By far the worst in this process was changing coolers. I had installed the stock AMD cooler, and when it came to changing it, it came up... with the CPU stuck to it 😱😱. I've been VERY lucky as there were no bent pins and it still works, but what a fright... It came unstuck with the help of a wooden ruler in the end. Phew.

I have detailed my process a bit more on this thread.

Apologies for picture quality, I can only build once the kids are asleep so there's little good light.

EDIT: I did some tests to see which fan configuration works best. TLDR: case fa as exhaust, CPU fan pushing up.

Part Reviews

CPU

Got it for quite cheap, it runs hot but runs well! Not a fan of the stock cooler, which is loud and in my case remained stuck to the CPU when changing it...

CPU Cooler

Lovely and quiet, quite effective. I had to proceed carefully to install it and think it through, but it works well. I bent the pipes slightly to fit over my RAM, you're not supposed to do it but as I had a secondhand one I thought why not!

Motherboard

Does the job, got everything I needed. The HD audio connector is annoyingly placed, as the cable runs over/against the SSD heatsink. Otherwise the board is well laid out. For a board supposed to have premium audio, the lack of optical out is annoying for me though!

Video Card

Fans idle at 40% so it's always a bit noisy. But otherwise runs fine! The backplate, even if plastic, is useful in a small build to avoid things against it.

Case

It's proper ugly, but so cheap you forgive it. Sure it can be improved in a million ways (more vents at the back, better materials, better placement of front panels, you can only put 3 of the 4 screws of a 140mm fan) but hey you can fit all sorts of components in it and it's quite forgiving. There's seriously a need for more cheap SFF cases!!

Power Supply

Hard not to love, it's efficient, silent (the fan kicks in at 90W, I have yet to hear it), small... but the cables feel cheap and they are very stiff, so you won't make a beautiful build out of it. But then, when building in an SG13 like me, do you really care? :-)

Case Fan

Yep, it's quiet and moves a lot of air.

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Comments

judaivox
  • 4 years 5 months ago

Looks nice!

mok1
  • 4 years 5 months ago

did the noctua cooler interfere with the RAM in every orientation? build looks great.

lekorrigan
  • 4 years 5 months ago

Thanks! This RAM is 34.1mm high; the Noctua's RAM clearance is 35mm - less than 1mm! Tight in any direction, but this is the orientation that provided the best clearance with just a small bend of the pipes. When horizontal, it looked like it was resting on the RAM...

alvinpatrick
  • 3 years 2 months ago

Can't tell for sure if it'll fit from the pics but have you tried mounting the CPU fan above the heatsink instead of under it?

I have an SF450 platinum which I'm assuming is the same size as the gold and I used to have HyperX sticks as well. The heatsink tilts down away from the pipes but still doesn't touch the RAM. I would've mounted the fan above but I kept it under because in my case the heatsink was sitting tall enough to have clearance for the RAM but not enough clearance under the PSU.

lekorrigan
  • 3 years 2 months ago

Hello. I tried to put the fan above, and it wasn't a good idea - it rattled against the PSU and couldn't catch much air anyway. I provided more details about the fan configurations in this post.

astral18
  • 3 years 1 month ago

Great build! I'm guessing the L12-S had to be bent due to the mobo heatsink, since I didn't have to do it for mine.

As for the SF450, was there any advantage between the PSU fan up or down?

From a fellow microwave enjoyer

lekorrigan
  • 3 years 1 month ago

Thanks! The bend in the L12-S is due to the RAM heatsinks rather than mobo. Otherwise it would have touched the RAm - maybe not an issue but I don't like to idea of vibrations close to it. I haven't tested the SF450 upside down; according to the wisdom of r/sffpc, with water cooling you should put it with the fan down so that it sucks air out and keeps the inside cooled enough; with air cooling, you should keep it with the fan up, as there is enough ventilation in the case between the CPU fan and case fan.